I discussed this with W. this afternoon and he found it to be interesting as well.
Then W. talked about we can learn from katagiri roshi. A different topic: about how if I feel uncomfortable that's OK when I need to process something or do something that is difficult -- just do it. If I perceive it's difficult.. then it's time to do it. in some sense we're creating a Phantom wall and we can walk right through that wall...bc reality is likely to be quite different from our imagining.